Times of the Gentiles Fulfilled & Jerusalem

I have received several questions about whether the times of the Gentiles are yet fulfilled. There are several telling prophecy regarding the fulfillment of the Times of the Gentiles which give us a hint. They are that Jerusalem will be “trodden down” and that the Jews will continue to disbelieve in Jesus Christ until the fullness of the Gentiles be come in.

“Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.” (Luke 21:22-24)

“Blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles be come in.” (Romans 11:25)

Elder McConkie, referencing these two conditions, firmly states “And so it is that the times of the Gentiles is not yet fulfilled, and so it is that the city where our Lord was crucified shall be trodden down by Gentile unbelievers until that day of fulfillment dawns upon the earth.” (Millennial Messiah, p. 254)

Another great indicator of the fulfillment the times of the Gentiles is that the gathering of the literal blood of Judah to Jerusalem will begin. This has to be the blood of Israel, not just people calling themselves “Jews”. Even Paul said in his day, “For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel: Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children.” (Rom. 9:6-7.)

Elder McConkie noted:  An initial and preparatory political gathering is now underway. But the city [of Jerusalem] is still a Gentile stronghold, and it is still trodden down by forces alien to those true believers who one day will build anew its walls and erect therein again a holy temple to Jehovah. (Millennial Messiah, p. 252)

“Ye say that ye know that the end of the world cometh; ye say also that ye know that the heavens and the earth shall pass away; And in this ye say truly, for so it is; but these things which I have told you shall not pass away until all shall be fulfilled. And this I have told you concerning Jerusalem; and when that day shall come, shall a remnant be scattered among all nations; But they shall be gathered again; but they shall remain until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.” (D&C 45:22-25)

Our great challenge is to ensure that the Fullness of the Gentiles finds us in full bloom, personally and powerfully evolved and involved in the latter-day scene. Just as the Jews rejected the Fullness of the Gospel in their day, so is it prophesied that most of the Gentiles of this generation will reject the same, and the Gospel will be returned to the Jews. All of this must happen, and we have the great honor of holding the standard high, and declaring by our faith and our righteous stature, that in each of our lives, the Fullness has been received.

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17 Responses to Times of the Gentiles Fulfilled & Jerusalem

  1. mdenkers1 says:

    Brother Pontius,
    Your recent essays on the Last Days are really confusing me. It was my distinct impression that the Times of the Gentiles have been fulfilled.

    First of all, President Spencer W Kimball called a press conference and said just that about 1977 and added that it was now the Time of the Lamanites.

    Secondly, in the Doctrine and Covenants Student Manual is a quote by President Joseph Fielding Smith which confirms this and says:

    D&C 45:24–30 . What Are the “Times of the Gentiles” and When Are They Fulfilled?
    President Joseph Fielding Smith explained that “the times of the Gentiles commenced shortly after the death of our Redeemer. The Jews soon rejected the Gospel and it was then taken to the Gentiles. The times of the Gentiles have continued from that time until now. The Lord said: ‘But many that are first shall be last; and the last shall be first.’ In that day the Gospel was given first to the Jews and then taken to the Gentiles. In this dispensation it was taken first to the Gentiles and afterwards it will go to the Jews.” ( Church History and Modern Revelation, 1:196.)
    The times of the Gentiles began with Peter’s vision and the baptism of Cornelius (see Acts 10 ). Paul and the other Apostles then began the great missionary work to the Gentiles, since the Jewish nation, for the most part, had rejected Jesus. As President Smith indicated, the times that the major gospel effort would be with gentile nations continued with the Restoration. The times of the Gentiles will be over, or fulfilled, when the major efforts of gospel teaching begin to focus on the house of Israel: the Lamanites, the Jews, and the ten tribes.
    In the Olivet Discourse, the Savior gave four signs to indicate when the times of the Gentiles were over. Three are given in section 45, and one is given in Luke’s account of the great discourse.
    1. The Jews will be gathered back to the land of Jerusalem (see D&C 45:25 ). In the April 1960 general conference, Elder George Q. Morris of the Quorum of the Twelve discussed this sign:
    “I think perhaps we may well now not continue saying the Jews are going to gather in Jerusalem. I think now we may well say they have gathered . The ultimate returns will come later as they develop this land and are joined by others. . . .
    “This statement by a writer is very interesting:
    “‘Strangely enough when the State of Israel was reborn in 1948, it was a nation of 600,000, the same number which the Bible reports that Moses led out of bondage in Egypt. It now numbers some two million, the same number which it is said populated the ancient Kingdom of Solomon, when Israel was in all its glory.’
    “That is why we may now say that the Jews have returned to Palestine.” (In Conference Report, Apr. 1960, pp. 100–101.)
    2. It will be in a time of great social turmoil (see D&C 45:26–27 ). One need only follow current events as reported in the news media for a day or two to see turmoil like the Savior described.
    3. The Gentiles will for the most part reject the gospel (see D&C 45:28–30 ). President Joseph Fielding Smith, writing about these verses, said: “‘And when the times of the Gentiles is come in, a light shall break forth among them that sit in darkness, and it shall be the fulness of my Gospel,’ the Lord said in this revelation [ D&C 45:28 ]. The meaning is that when the time had come for the restoration of the Gospel—in the times of the Gentiles—that it would not be perceived because the hearts of the people are turned away by the precepts of men. However, in that generation this should happen, the times of the Gentiles should be fulfilled.” ( Church History and Modern Revelation, 1:196.)
    4. Jerusalem will no longer be “trodden down of the Gentiles” ( Luke 21:24 ). Again President Smith explained: “When we consider the words of the Savior to his disciples, that the Jews should be scattered and ‘Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled,’ we have a fair understanding of the meaning of this . . . verse [D&C 45:30] in this revelation. Jerusalem was trodden down of the Gentiles from the day of its destruction until the close of the year 1917, when it was freed from Turkish rule by General Edmund H. Allenby of the British forces. After the war Palestine became a British mandate, and Great Britain by proclamation declared that country to be a refuge for the Jews, who were invited to return. . . . It is very significant, however, that Jerusalem is no longer trodden down by the Gentiles and the Jews are again gathering there. This is the sign given by our Lord, for the end of the times of the Gentiles. We are now in the transition period and shortly the day of the Jew will dawn and the Gospel will be taken to them and to the remnants on this land.” ( Church History and Modern Revelation, 1:196–97.)
    When Joseph Fielding Smith wrote those words in 1947, Israel had not yet been made a state; they were still under the British mandate. But on 15 May 1948, Israel became an independent nation and declared Jerusalem to be her capital. In the war that followed this declaration, the Jews could maintain control of western Jerusalem only. East Jerusalem became part of the state of Jordan. In general conference in 1966, Elder Smith, now President of the Quorum of the Twelve, said: “Jesus said the Jews would be scattered among all nations and Jerusalem would be trodden down by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles were fulfilled. ( Luke 21:24 .) The prophecy in Section 45, verses 24–29 , of the Doctrine and Covenants regarding the Jews was literally fulfilled. Jerusalem, which was trodden down by the Gentiles, is no longer trodden down but is made the home for the Jews. They are returning to Palestine, and by this we may know that the times of the Gentiles are near their close.” (In Conference Report, Apr. 1966, p. 13.)
    During the Six-Day War of 1967, Israel conquered the West Bank, including Jerusalem, and for the first time since the city fell to the legions of Titus in A.D. 70, Jerusalem came completely under the control of a Jewish government. ” (http://institute.lds.org/manuals/doctrine-and-covenants-institute-student-manual/dc-in-041-45.asp)

    Please address my concerns for this is what I have been teaching in Institute. Thank you, Marion


  2. Mike says:

    Who is Spencer???


    • Mike, Spencer is the gentleman I just wrote a book about. He has died 3 times and had many experiences beyond the veil, including seeing his own journey thourgh the latter-days, the millennium and the Second Coming. The book should be out later this year.


  3. Donald says:

    Are we talking about the marred servant of Isaiah/3 Nephi?


  4. ken h says:

    Perhaps the JST Isaiah 42:19–23 refers to this Servant…..

    19 For I will send my servant unto you who are blind; yea, a messenger to open the eyes of the blind, and unstop the ears of the deaf;

    20 And they shall be made perfect notwithstanding their blindness, if they will hearken unto the messenger, the Lord’s servant.

    21 Thou art a people, seeing many things, but thou observest not; opening the ears to hear, but thou hearest not.

    22 The Lord is not well pleased with such a people, but for his righteousness’ sake he will magnify the law and make it honorable.

    23 Thou art a people robbed and spoiled; thine enemies, all of them, have snared thee in holes, and they have hid thee in prison houses; they have taken thee for a prey, and none delivereth; for a spoil, and none saith, Restore.
    know the refernce could be to Christ to the Jews of His day but perhaps fulfilling through this future servant as well.


    • Ken,

      I just have never associated that reference with the Dividic Servant. We will all be very intrigued to find out, but most of us may not even know until after his work is done. Most people ignored Christ, so it makes sense they would ignore another prophet as well.



  5. Esselman NC says:

    To TDG
    Any servant you see stepping forth and fulfilling the words of Isaiah?
    Do you by chance know where is John the Beloved/Revelator ?

    Brother Pontius…. did Spencer mention this special Leader/Servant?


    • I know there is a lot of interest and speculation about who or what the Latter-day David will be. Spencer did not mention him specifically, but I will ask that question. Personally, I don’t have that answer.


    • TDG says:

      Hi Esselman, I love reading and pondering the scriptures pertaining to the events of the final days leading up to the second coming, beyond that I don’t feel that I have any special knowledge concerning these things. Studying, praying and pondering is pretty much an equal opportunity pursuit.

      Beyond what the scriptures say about it, I wouldn’t want to speculate on the timing or identity of the Servant.

      I know of people who believe they have seen John the Beloved. I know others who like John P. believe they have met one or more of the three Nephites, but I have no idea of the whereabouts of the apostle John or any of the three at any particular time. I do believe they are among us and we know it not (for the most part), as the scriptures tell us.


  6. TDG says:

    Esselman, The Savior, speaking of yet future events, quotes Isaiah in prophesying of the Servant that you mention.

    3 Nephi 20:42-46
    42 For ye shall not go out with haste nor go by flight; for the Lord will go before you, and the God of Israel shall be your rearward. (1)
    43 Behold, my servant shall deal prudently; he shall be exalted and extolled and be very high. (2)
    44 As many were astonished at thee—his visage was so marred, more than any man, and his form more than the sons of men— (3)
    45 So shall he sprinkle many nations; the kings shall shut their mouths at him, for that which had not been told them shall they see; and that which they had not heard shall they consider. (4)
    46 Verily, verily, I say unto you, all these things shall surely come, even as the Father hath commanded me. Then shall this covenant which the Father hath covenanted with his people be fulfilled; and then shall Jerusalem be inhabited again with my people, and it shall be the land of their inheritance.

    (1) Latter-day exodus from Babylon prior to its destruction.
    (2) His Servant’s role of gathering Isreal. also D&C 77:9,11,14 (Elias of the last days)
    (3) This verse foretells the result of the violent rejection of His Servant by the gentiles prior to his role in the gathering of Israel. He is marred but not hurt, and is then healed. (3 Nephi 21:10).
    (4) This verse talks about those who accept His Servant. These are on the other side of the great division you mentioned in your post. So who are the Kings in this verse? See “Kings shall be thy nursing fathers and Queens thy nursing mothers.” Isa:49:23. These Kings and Queens of the gentiles are not political kings and queens, rather think of temple imagery, and those having their covenants sealed by the Holy Spirit of Promise. The Kings that the Savior is speaking of here will shut there mouths and listen to His Servant. What they haven’t seen (or been taught before) they now see, and what they haven’t heard before they now consider.


  7. Mike says:

    It also appears that the gentile nations of the world, Western Europe and America are rejecting the fulness of the gospel. Traditional Christian nations are losing their belief in core doctrines such as the Literal Resurrection of
    Christ. Is this because they have largely rejected the Restoration and the Book of Mormon? The missions of Europe are now being combined instead of divided…another sign of this spiritual decline?


  8. Esselman NC says:

    “Just as the Jews rejected the Fullness of the Gospel in their day, so is it prophesied that most of the Gentiles of this generation will reject the same, and the Gospel will be returned to the Jews.”

    If the first was a type….then it seems a servant of the Lord would start to vocally proclaim the doctrines of the fulness of the gospel and then the saints reject it vocally and thus a division in the church occurs fulfilling yet another prophecy.


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