The Second Coming at Jerusalem

We previously discussed the Times of the Gentiles, Who are the Gentiles, The times of the Gentiles  Fulfilled, Times of Gentiles and Jerusalem,  Opening the Seven Seals, the grand council at Adam-Ondi-Ahman, and the Establishment of Zion and the 144,000. Understanding the discussion today on the Second Coming at Jerusalem, will draw upon conclusions made previously in the referenced Un-Blog articles. I have provided links if you need to reread some parts of these, and I encourage you to do so.

After Jesus Christ has accomplished his first appearance in the New Jerusalem, His next “coming” will be to the beleaguered Jews at Jerusalem. During the entire history of the Jews from the days of Christ, they have not accepted Jesus Christ as a people. Their prophesied difficulties and scourging will continue until the very day they accept Him as their Messiah.

16 And after they have been scattered, and the Lord God hath scourged them by other nations for the space of many generations, yea, even down from generation to generation until they shall be persuaded to believe in Christ, the Son of God, and the atonement, which is infinite for all mankind—and when that day shall come that they shall believe in Christ, and worship the Father in his name, with pure hearts and clean hands, and look not forward any more for another Messiah, then, at that time, the day will come that it must needs be expedient that they should believe these things.

17 And the Lord will set his hand again the second time to restore his people from their lost and fallen state. Wherefore, he will proceed to do a marvelous work and a wonder among the children of men. (2 Nephi 25:16-17).

The land and people of Jerusalem shall continue to be “trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.” (Luke 21:24)

During this time the world the armies of every nation will have gathered to make war around Jerusalem. If you remember world geography, this is the Middle East, the home of Iran, Iraq, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Libya, Jordan, Kuwait and Israel. It requires small imagination to believe there could be a world war centered in that place. But, after much destruction, and the complete annihilation of some of the armies, the remainder will turned their attention to conquering Jerusalem. If the current world condition persists until this time, one might prognosticate that the western nations and allies assembled there to protect Jerusalem, and that the nations of the Middle East were engaged in battle to crush her. Such is the stated goal of each side, and the armies we speak of are already there, poised and staged to begin. In my opinion, only a miracle of divine intervention could turn the scene to some different scenario.

All of the armies of the world will be assembled outside of Jerusalem for this purpose, but their plans will be put to frustration by two prophets who have been sent from the ranks of the Latter-day Church, (McConkie, Doctrinal New Testament Commentary, Vol.3, p. 510) to defend the Jews. (D&C 77:4)

Power will be given to the Two Prophets for 1260 days, or roughly 3-1/2 years, to defend Jerusalem by power. They shall call down fire from heaven and other miracles to defend the ancient covenant people. (Revelation 11:5) They will have power to command the heavens and control the weather, to smite the earth and water with plagues. We are told, “as often as they will”. (Revelation 11: 6) This description of their power is typical of translated beings, who have the power to divide the waters, call down fire, command the earth and elements, and have power in heaven and on earth. (D&C 50:26-27)

At this point the Two Prophets become a hindrance to the plans of kings of the armies, and they will turn their attention from Jerusalem in general, to the Two specifically, and shall make war against them, and kill them. (Revelation 11:7)

Their dead bodies will be left in the street, unburied, as the nations of the earth rejoice, and make merry, and send gifts to one another because these two prophets that tormented them are dead. (Revelation 11:8) We can hardly imagine it! But, it speaks of the world watching, which is believable because of the instant access we have to news events far removed from our world. I can almost imagine their dead bodies on CNN evening news, or on a webcam, so the world can watch and rejoice.

After 3-1/2 days the spirit of life returns to them and they arise and stand upon their feet. Now, consider the webcam scenario in these words “and great fear fell upon them which saw them.” (Revelation 11:11) Immediately following their reanimation a great earthquake will shake the earth. In that earthquake another 7,000 Jews die, and a great part of the city falls.

The remainder of the Jews will look up into heaven and see a man coming “in the clouds of heaven, clothed with power and great glory; with all the holy angels.” (D&C 45:44) They will run toward Him as he descends toward the Mount of Olives. He will set His foot upon the mount and it will “cleave in twain”. (D&C 45:48) The unspoken imagery is that the struggling survivors will rush into the broken mount, and will meet Him there as he descends. They will know He is their Messiah, will fall down at His feet. They will undoubtedly say in their hearts, “Our Messiah has finally returned!!”  Then as they worship him, they will see the wounds in his hands and his feet.

They will look up to His face in wonderment and proclaim, “What are these wounds in thine hands and in thy feet?” (D&C 45:51) There should be no wounds in God’s hands and feet! How can this be?

Then Jesus Christ will answer them, “These wounds are the wounds with which I was wounded in the house of my friends. I am he who was lifted up. I am Jesus that was crucified. I am the  Son of God.” (D&C 45:52) Then, then after millennia of resistance and persecution and rejection, at long last the Jews will finally believe. But, believing will give birth to rivers of tears as they weep because of their iniquities. Then shall they lament because they, and their fathers for every generation that has passed, persecuted their king. (D&C 45:53).

If I were to take some poetic license with this scene, I would imagine angels coming forth from the heavens to comfort them, heal their wounds, raise their worthy dead, and teach them. To believe is not to know, or to understand, and it will be a long period of teaching, testifying and of ordinances properly administered that brings these long-rebellions people into a position where they can take their place within the emerging glory of Old Jerusalem, to stand side-by-side with the New Jerusalem in the new millennial world that is soon to be.

This conversion of the Jews at long last signals the fulfillment of the times of the Gentiles. To fulfill means to complete, to accomplish your purpose, to succeed. As these newly-minted Jewish Saints take their place in the latter-day Kingdom, then will begin an orderly and glorious transition from the Kingdom God administered by the Gentiles, to the Kingdom of administered by Israel.

What will happen to we latter-day Gentiles? We will cease to be counted as Gentiles, and our spiritual adoption into the household of God will adjudicate us to be true Israelites, and we will continue our devotions, service and ministry, but now as a preeminent part of the House of Israel.

Next on the Un-Blog: The Universal Second Coming

Brother John

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11 Responses to The Second Coming at Jerusalem

  1. Maggie says:

    Thank you Brother Pontius. Of course I should have recognized from the temple ceremony that we do arrive individually at the veil. I very much appreciate your taking the time to respond to my, off-the-subject question.


  2. Chris says:

    I agree that the powers of the Two Prophets reflect those of translated beings, but the hitch is they are to lie DEAD in the street for 3.5 days. Translated beings don’t die. Those who receive the fullness of the priesthood also have similar powers, so whomever they are, we can assume that they will at least have had their C&E made sure.


    • Yes, that’s why I said “translated powers” not translated beings. In the larger scheme of things God can do anything, so allowing a person with translated powers to die is well within His power. It really boils down to the fact that we know very little of what is going to happen. We walk by faith. Whatever it is, it will be viewed by the whole world.


      • Steve says:

        It seems those men would have the powers of an Enoch or Elijah or Nephi, men who were not (I suppose) translated when they were exercising power over elements.


  3. Maggie says:

    Could you help me to understand a quote from Elder Nelson during our last gen. conf? On pg 88 he says, “Brethren of the covenant have the right to qualify for the oath and covenant of the priesthood. If you are faithful unto the obtaining these two priesthoods and the magnifying of your calling, you are sanctified by the Spirit unto the renewing of your bodies. That is not all. Men who worthily receive the priesthood receive the Lord Jesus Christ, and those who receive the Lord receive God the Father.”

    Why does Elder Nelson make the obvious distinction of men? Is it because women are not brought into the presence of the Savior except through their husband? Does the husband need to be brought into the Savior’s presense first?

    I have always understood that a faithful woman shares equally in all the blessings of the priesthood; this does not sound “equal.”

    Please do not shy away from this Brother Pontius. I don’t want an answer that is “gentle” or patronizing in any way; I want the truth in all things. If it is the truth I will know it is righteous even if I don’t currently understand it. The Lord says He is no respecter or persons and I believe Him. This, however, seems incongruent.

    Thank you for your service to us all.


    • Maggie, I just wrote you a long reply, and then somehow deleted it. It must be a sign – of what I can’t say.

      I believe all people must achieve their blessings individually, without regard to what their spouse chooses. The temple teaches us that women have equal promises, and equal privileges, and that they arrive at the veil independantly.
      I do not believe that women have to wait for their husbands, nor is it true the other way around. This would fly in the face of agency.

      The eternal marriage contract stipulates that both parties must arrive at Celestial worthiness independantly for the contrant to be valid. No person can claim the blessings due to their spouse’s merrits, and no one can be denied because of their partner’s failure. But, we must both arrive in order for the contract to be valid.

      The Oath and Covenant of the Priesthood adds an obligation to the brethren to obtain and magnify the priesthoods. But, this does not constitute an advantage. Brethren and sisters alike can’t baptize themselves, but must wait upon another. Holding the priesthood is an added responsibility which yields the same blessings as the sisters when we individually accomlish them. That responsibility is to righteously preside in the home and in the church, and to give righteous council. It is not an easy thing. I believe most priesthood brethren glimpse this responsibility fairly clearly, and struggle to bear up under the load. It is stated almost every general priesthood meeting.

      Sisters have an equal privilege and blessing for their pathway, but the responsibility is different. In addition to temple covenants, Sisters are to raise righteous posterity and hearken to the righteous council of their husband. This is the teaching of the temple. But, I wonder how many sisters accept it. There is a tendency among the sisters to let a sense of past gender grievances create an entitlement attitude. “You owe me, buster!” Which makes hearkening (submitting) to anything, especially from a male, seem distasteful, and they step out of their circle of safety and blessings. It is also the reason that when General Relief Society president, Julie Beck said this very thing in General Conference a year ago, she was pounded with complaints and criticism. But, she was dead on in her assessment, and pretty gutsy to say it out loud.

      What we do individually to leave the path is far more dangerous than anything a spouse could inflict upon us.

      Brother John


  4. Steve says:

    A question: Considering the examples of Abinadi and Samuel the Lamanite, why do you believe that the 2 prophets have to be from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?

    Thanks, John.



  5. kenh says:


    Reading your post about Christ going to the Jews in Jerusalem. My understanding is it is after Jesus comes in glory not before. When Christ comes in glory the earth is in darkness. We are no longer in this orbit. The land masses are brought together as one giant continent and the land mass that will fill the current Gulf of Mexico is under the combined cities of Enoch’s Zion and Melchizedek’s Salem and will fill in that spot from whence that land was taken. Our Zion rises up to unite with these returning combined cities and the uniting of all three constitute the New Jerusalem. The wicked survive these upheavals and are still in darkness scattered all over the unified continent. Then Revelations chapter 19 takes place. Christ mounts a white horse and the resurrected and translated men in white also mount horses and travel across this great continent and destroy the wicked who have remained.( This army I believe to be the 144,000 who wield the two edge sword of God. Mercy for the righteous who seek it and Justice for the wicked who deserve justice). The wicked must have their blood shed for the Atonement to be applied to their sins. What causes the earthquake is the Savior dismounting His horse. Let me explain. D&C 45
    Verse 43 – The saints have gathered to the Land of Zion and are prepared for Christ glorious return.
    Verse 44 – The Savior’s glorious return all the world we see him but the wicked will not know what it means but we the righteous do.
    Verse 45,46 – An angel sounds his trump and the dead faithful saints arise and with the righteous alive saints are caught up to meet Christ and His angels. ( same as D&C 88:95-98)
    Verse 47 – the wicked will ultimately be destroyed off the earth.
    Verse 48-53 – This is a separate event altogether. Christ has mounted his horse as well as the others mentioned before and ride across the global continent destroying the wicked. See Zechariah 14:3-8. Isaiah 13:2-15 / Isaiah 66:15,16. Once the wicked have been utterly destroyed and Jerusalem has been beautified and made holy then this conquering army returns and global peace is finally established. Christ does come to the Jews but on horseback. He came to Jerusalem on horseback at the end of His earthly ministry and now he returns to convert and heal the Jews once and for all.
    Just my two cents.


    • I admit there is a lot of confusion, and even more opinions about these things. The documentation and scriptures I provided do teach that the appearance to the Jews is before the general coming. Even still, it is hard to interpret. I posted your comment for others to read and consider.

      Thanks, JMP


  6. Joni says:

    Thank you brother John for the insight on the Jerusalum and Jews side of the second coming of Christ. I find it not only very interesting, but very insightful. I am looking forward to the second half of your blog regarding the Second Coming of Christ and the western parts of the world. This section of your blog does help me put into perspective the process that will be taking place during the events proceeding the Second Coming. We do read this information in the scriptures, but it just doesn’t present itself in such a vivid picture at least for me anyway.


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